Is the Greece bail-out a good deal?

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Is the Greece bail-out a good deal?
Three people have died during protests in Greece over planned austerity measures. What do you think of the bail-out?

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47 Responses to “Is the Greece bail-out a good deal?”

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  4. sting catandeloc Says:

    Talk about winning the jackpot! Thanks to retiring Senator Chris Dodd one of the highest grossing casinos in the country (earning more than $1.3 billion in gross revenues in 2009) received a 3% government loan. Bailout=Shush Fund. Your tax dollars at work.

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  12. dos Says:

    Here's an analogy to explain the bailout. It's like being a boat with a hole in it, that's sinking at a fast rate. So instead of plugging the hole, as in addressing the core problem…the "powers that be" chose to just buy a bigger bucket to bail the water out.

    See…the bailout is focused on the wrong end of the problem. The bailout should be focused on the origin of the problem, the defaulting homeowners. The bailout should indemnify defaulting homeowners and pay off the delinquent mortgages.

    Stopping the problem at its origin would restore the value of the mortgage-based derivatives and put an end to the crisis.
    This approach has the further advantage of stopping the slide in housing prices and ending the erosion of local tax bases that result from foreclosures and houses being dumped on the market. Under the bailout plan, the troubled assets move from the banks’ books to the Treasury’s. But the underlying problem–the continuing diminishment of mortgage and home values–remains and continues to worsen.

    So the only people this bailout benefits is the big bankers. Sure, they throw in some window dressing in this final bill to make the public and Congress feel better. It only delays any even bigger economic crash for the future. It's like being on the Titanic, while all the "super-rich" are running to the life boats headed for the islands. They leave the general public below deck to polish the silver, unaware of the real crisis.

    Hope this helps…

  13. juvethebia phamassi Says:

    Years of bad decisions and stupid mistakes have created an economic nightmare in this country, but $700 billion in new debt is not the answer. As a tax-paying American citizen, I will not support any congressperson who votes to implement such a policy. Instead, I submit the following three steps:

    Common Sense Plan.

    I. INSURANCE

    A. Insure the subprime bonds/mortgages with an underlying FHA-type insurance. Government-insured and backed loans would have an instant market all over the world, creating immediate and needed liquidity.

    B. In order for a company to accept the government-backed insurance, they must do two things:

    1. Rewrite any mortgage that is more than three months delinquent to a 6% fixed-rate mortgage.
    a. Roll all back payments with no late fees or legal costs into the balance. This brings homeowners current and allows them a chance to keep their homes.
    b. Cancel all prepayment penalties to encourage refinancing or the sale of the property to pay off the bad loan. In the event of foreclosure or short sale, the borrower will not be held liable for any deficit balance. FHA does this now, and that encourages mortgage companies to go the extra mile while
    working with the borrower—again limiting foreclosures and ruined lives.

    2. Cancel ALL golden parachutes of EXISTING and FUTURE CEOs and executive team members as long as the company holds these government-insured bonds/mortgages. This keeps underperforming executives from being paid when they don’t do their jobs.

    C. This backstop will cost less than $50 billion—a small fraction of the current proposal.

    II. MARK TO MARKET

    A. Remove mark to market accounting rules for two years on only subprime Tier III bonds/mortgages. This keeps companies from being forced to artificially mark down bonds/mortgages below the value of the underlying mortgages and real estate.

    B. This move creates patience in the market and has an immediate stabilizing effect on failing and ailing banks—and it costs the taxpayer nothing.

    III. CAPITAL GAINS TAX

    A. Remove the capital gains tax completely. Investors will flood the real estate and stock market in search of tax-free profits, creating tremendous—and immediate—liquidity in the markets. Again, this costs the taxpayer nothing.

    B. This move will be seen as a lightning rod politically because many will say it is helping the rich. The truth is the rich will benefit, but it will be their money that stimulates the economy. This will enable all Americans to have more stable jobs and retirement investments that go up instead of down. This is not a time for envy, and it’s not a time for politics. It’s time for all of us, as Americans, to
    stand up, speak out, and fix this mess.

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  21. landle wiano Says:

    I'm planning on voting against any incumbent.
    However, the American public are sadly dreaming if they think this financial disaster will somehow blow over without disastrous consequences for all of us.
    Layoffs are already beginning because small business' credit lines have been dropped. The tidal swell is rising and denying its existence is futile.

  22. bazilian jangen Says:

    Here's an analogy to explain the bailout. It's like being a boat with a hole in it, that's sinking at a fast rate. So instead of plugging the hole, as in addressing the core problem…the "powers that be" chose to just buy a bigger bucket to bail the water out.

    See…the bailout is focused on the wrong end of the problem. The bailout should be focused on the origin of the problem, the defaulting homeowners. The bailout should indemnify defaulting homeowners and pay off the delinquent mortgages.

    Stopping the problem at its origin would restore the value of the mortgage-based derivatives and put an end to the crisis.
    This approach has the further advantage of stopping the slide in housing prices and ending the erosion of local tax bases that result from foreclosures and houses being dumped on the market. Under the bailout plan, the troubled assets move from the banks’ books to the Treasury’s. But the underlying problem–the continuing diminishment of mortgage and home values–remains and continues to worsen.

    So the only people this bailout benefits is the big bankers. Sure, they throw in some window dressing in this final bill to make the public and Congress feel better. It only delays any even bigger economic crash for the future. It's like being on the Titanic, while all the "super-rich" are running to the life boats headed for the islands. They leave the general public below deck to polish the silver, unaware of the real crisis.

    Hope this helps…

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    Greece :)

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    If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.

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  38. gucedeman charrymand Says:

    There’s $19 trillion ‘missing’ from the federal reserve. $1 trillion isn’t gonna help much with $18 trillion still unaccounted for.

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    Summary Box: Greece, IMF expect debt deals soon
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